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Official Feature Wish-List

edited August 9 in Feature Wish-lists

What would you like to see in a future release of Group the Loop?

Current version: GTL 1.4 August 2018

Comments

  • First of all, congrats for the amazing work you have done Jack.

    As usual I will share my needs alongside my opinion since when someone ask for a feature that person should argument a bit to share the background. Said that...

    Background.
    Since backing tracks workflow is now near to perfect (I probably miss something but I can think what else someone should need from than perspective aside midi clips?) I think it could be time to focus towards post production audio editor (improving the basic one GTL has) and maybe iPhone version (I will open a dedicated thread for that topic).

    In the advanced audio editor and following a bit actual workflow it will make sense to have the option to record into a timeline but grouping the tracks by some coding (or position in the window). Let me explain a bit.
    We have main group and song parts groups. We can record these into a timeline just with 2 audio channels and it will as start point useful but what about recording the main group as 4 dedicsted audio lines/channels and another 4 (or maybe more) for the song parts clips. We can do that also from position (top clips in dedicated channel, 2nd to another, 3rd to another and lower to another) or by color coding (you add a color to the clip and the color bus its output to a dedicated channel let user to mixbussing by color which should be related to the clip content).
    If we match position and color we will have some kind of continuum too but making them seprste gives more flexibility (or mesh) to the user. Just an idea.

    So when we hit rec in the advanced audio editor and perform we end with multistem project suitable for further edition. In fact this should be called advanced recorder since we don’t have an audio editor yet (right?).

    This approach brings 2 workflow possibilities which will worth explore.
    1- Multistem recording which could permit DAW export (Ableton export works with stems too?)
    2- Performance recording. Instead recording audio, just recording the performance (which clip was active, color, fx, etc) as metadata suitable to be crampd into a xml file (and again ableton exportable like BlocsWave does into Launchpad app/ Ableton) giving the users a step in the middle to edit their performance (if we limit all the channels/clips to match Ableton LE version it could be a touchdown since most users use iOS app in junction with Ableton export and give Jack more time to improve internal advanced audio editor meanwhile we have a workaround). Even Apple has Logic Pro export from Garageband pointing the “maybe it’s still to soon to use iPad as computer, let’s make another ad saying the opposite to funnel people” :trollface:

    This 2 approach seem the competence paths (multiple outputs into AUM or DAW) and sequence performance like loopverse or alk desktop looper which seems to be the most requested features at the forum.

    Now some videos snapshots to do the required pedagogy for all my crazy post. I talk like everybody could see my brain from inside, I know.

    https://zenaud.io/

    Arranger looper concept. Similar but requires know the song structure before start which IMHO defeats too much the experimental or on the fly character of live looping itself.


    Mixtape feature of the failed Serato The Bridge Ableton partnership. You can see a similar approach to another live performance (turntablism) and how a metadata to xml recorder could work. It’s possible to do something even better but that’s another history...

    I hope this clearify the idea behind my proposal. ASAP I will try to mockup the color bussing method I described. Meanwhile please share thoughts and questions.

  • It's a real pleasure using the latest version of GTL . Very happy with the latest release.All the work on the transport/solo etc gui has made it much more fun. I use GTL for live impro in manual CUE off mode. I would love to have the option of having a 1/4 time sig. so that it would be easy to record quantized loops of different lengths.
    The other thing I'd like is some kind of record arm track option. I use a midi pedal so it IS possible to highlight (select) the next loop location to record into, but sometimes this means pressing the pedal many times to get from one location to another. Using the touch screen would make it much quicker to jump around from, say loop 3 of group 1 to loop 2 of group 4 for example.

  • @jazubon said:
    It's a real pleasure using the latest version of GTL . Very happy with the latest release.All the work on the transport/solo etc gui has made it much more fun. I use GTL for live impro in manual CUE off mode. I would love to have the option of having a 1/4 time sig. so that it would be easy to record quantized loops of different lengths.
    The other thing I'd like is some kind of record arm track option. I use a midi pedal so it IS possible to highlight (select) the next loop location to record into, but sometimes this means pressing the pedal many times to get from one location to another. Using the touch screen would make it much quicker to jump around from, say loop 3 of group 1 to loop 2 of group 4 for example.

    Glad you're enjoying the update!

    Yes a 1/4 time sig would be great. It's been requested before so i'll bump it up the todo list.

    Record arm track option - I'd like to see this too, I will give it some thought.

  • edited October 4

    I updated my iPhone post with all the mockups related to multiple outputs and AUv3 version of GTL. Please take a look and comment.

    http://forum.grouptheloop.com/index.php?p=/discussion/190/iphone-version-let-s-talk-again

    Also reviewing my own post above talking about performance recorder I strongly believe it should be mainly metadata (midi, interface interaction like Ableton and audio as raw under any fx chain or modificator) to make somethng like the Serato the Mixtape feature I pointedand keep things in place. I know it could seem a total revamp from actual app but I feel it could be a hit and @jack has the bits at his hands.

    Hope it helps bros.

  • I’m not sure if the new apematrix AU plug (bus send bus recieve) could be helpful to send audio outside GTL...
    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/28905/apematrix-big-update-incoming

  • It seems not but maybe for bussing between groups could be useful for someone...

  • Interesting, thanks for the link!
  • ashash
    edited November 1

    Please add per loop volume control.

    Figured it out by accident (tutorial has a habit of quitting when it doesn't like something).

  • @ash said:
    Please add per loop volume control.

    Figured it out by accident (tutorial has a habit of quitting when it doesn't like something).

    Rodger that, I'll look into it :)

  • @Jack. Still loving this app. I may be in the minority here but I mostly use GTL for recording and it works well for me. I would like to see song mode and the ability to edit/trim loops added.

  • @Ben said:
    @Jack. Still loving this app. I may be in the minority here but I mostly use GTL for recording and it works well for me. I would like to see song mode and the ability to edit/trim loops added.

    It's one of the usual workflows... which makes me think even more in the AUv3 version inside a regular DAW (such Garageband or Cubasis)

    worth a look?
    http://forum.grouptheloop.com/index.php?p=/discussion/190/iphone-version-let-s-talk-again#latest

  • edited November 5
    @Ben, yes a song mode would be a great addition. Not sure when we will see it.

    I’d like to add a trim/editor function fairly soon. I was thinking of allowing the user to adjust the loops beyond the punch in/out points. So if you get the timing slightly wrong you could shift these points forward/backwards in time. GTL buffers the audio input so it's actually possible to reclaim audio before you punched in.

    @dubbylabby, an AUv3 version will happen. It’s certainly the way to go now now.
  • @Jack awesome! I strongly feel it could be good for you and it shouldn’t not harm GTL sales but even fuel them.
    Using an AUv3 the way I described makes resampling even easier with audio routing. We can record inside looper and later record the output of these loopers linear in any DAW... even realtime so step by step build from scratch to full songs (pauses for smile).

    IDK how hard is to code what I envisioned (or your approach based on that since I put the common icons without wondering how to use them lol just for mockup and inspire) but I hope AUv3 SDK makes some parts staightforward so once done you can think next steps in GTL strategy (and make some money mate!)

    :)

  • @Jack said:
    @Ben, yes a song mode would be a great addition. Not sure when we will see it.

    I’d like to add a trim/editor function fairly soon. I was thinking of allowing the user to adjust the loops beyond the punch in/out points. So if you get the timing slightly wrong you could shift these points forward/backwards in time. GTL buffers the audio input so it's actually possible to reclaim audio before you punched in.

    @dubbylabby, an AUv3 version will happen. It’s certainly the way to go now now.

    That’s good news. Are you thinking that we will be able to adjust the start and end points of a loop independent of each other? So more like trimming than a shift of the loop as a whole. Having the ability to do both would be amazing.

  • @Ben, yes exactly. :)
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