Ok thanks. No stress, I've been too busy to make use of it for the past few weeks. I'm a bit reluctant to update as I know iOS 13 has been full of issues. i bought heaps of apps during black Friday, which I also haven't hd a chance to play with yet, but was thinking they are probably good and 12, and once you update to 13 there's pretty much no going back. So I haven'r made the switch yet.